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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 20:00:52 GMT
... A the wheel ... Thank you very much Raine, you are always so kind with me, and yes, I also think we share the ideas! I can't wait to see more on Fire and Raine and the other Raine, what is the title of this other Raine's series? Both are so awesome! ;D Oh, and I'm still working on my Meme, hope you are going to like it when its ready! Thanks again Raine!
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Post by Juno on Apr 13, 2009 3:58:32 GMT
Since this in entirely relevant to your awesomesauce characters, I'm gonna post this here in your thread as opposed to my own, I hope you don't mind 83 So... I hope you don't consider this to be too forward to whatever, but yeah... I totally made a 9 page comic about Raine and Johnathan Cawthorne xD It's an idea I've been toying with for a couple days now, and since I had the day off essentially today, there was no better opportunity 83 I give to you: Circle! alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-1-119063408alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-2-119062987alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-3-119062823alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-4-119062593alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-5-119062452alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-6-119062160alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-7-119061953alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-8-119061600alu87.deviantart.com/art/Circle-Page-9-119061464I sincerely hope you like this, Raine <3 You have no idea how much I LOVE LOVE LOVE your characters and just everything about them <3 <3 <3 This comic was a great practice for me, and was tremendously fun at the same time x) Also, Raine is on the quiet side in this comic, as sadly I'm not too too sure about her personality, really DDD8 I'm sorry! Also I hope John isn't like... TOO hyper religious xD So yeah... Happy Easter? lol xD
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 6:36:21 GMT
I've just read that comic; and am quite awed. It's so awesome. I'm pretty sure Raine would adore it too
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Post by Juno on Apr 13, 2009 6:56:05 GMT
Oooh, thank you very much, Steffie. I was hoping to convey the darkness in it - that even though there were comedic moments (ala page 5 xD I myself giggle every time I look at it) the situations has a tremendous emotional (and for John physical as well) strain on them both. I don't see Raine as the cowardly type in the least, and as Raine said herself, it would take a lot for someone to unnerve her so.
I like to think there's a level of a sort of desperation between them - John wants so badly to burn her, and feed his own dark desires, all of them, most of which he can never allow himself to act on, and Raine - Even though she comes back after being burned, I can only imagine how awful a death that is, and to relive it so many times? It's horrifying, really. John is particularly nasty and completely unrelenting. It's very stressful between the two.
In my... humble thoughts anyways xD I trust Raine will tell me if I'm like, completely wrong, lol
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Post by Raine on Apr 13, 2009 9:11:55 GMT
Ooooh God! ;_; I'm speechless.. just speechless. I don't even have words Juno. I'm ecstatic and thrilled and touched argh.. just running a full gambit of feelings here all at the same time. My God.. this must have taken you forever! I don't even know what to say.. Just thank you. Thank you so so SO incredibly much! Really. You can't even know how completely touched it makes me that you would put something so nice together for me. I'm just beyond grateful here and completely honored. You can't even know! It fills me to no end with pure joy & appreciation that you like these two so much. I'm truly priviledged. <3 Oh God and you did them so much justice too. No words could ever accurately describe how entirely in love I am with this. Every panel is just so g;ldf;lk.. words escape me! They're all so perfect. I love love love everything about... everything! <33 The story, the expressions, the interaction between them aahh - just every little thing! And John.. Holy God.. just when I thought he couldn't possibly get any more enthralling. <3 <3 Oh how do you always manage to make him so damn attractive? It must be your goal to make me all shades of crazy over here I swear XD Him tearing up the house just argh.. so ridiculously nice <3 And the beginning especially *just swoooon* <3 Oh that couldn't be more perfect! I love him at the alter so SO much. I just want to do a piece of him in front of stained glass so badly now. And please - they are both so faultlessly in character. John is a devout fanatic. There's really no such thing as too religious for him. And Raine, I couldn't love what you did with her more. She's so anxious & terrified but still gathers the strength to stand up to him as best she can. Completely in character for her. Which, BTW, I completely love the whole 'freak' bit. God I think I laughed for about 5 minutes straight there haha XD But yes it's true, there's not a lot that makes her feel truly vulnerable but the stress he puts her through is enough to make him the one huge exception. Which you conveyed so flawlessly! I can't even tell you how much I just adore your ideas on them breaking each other down. It's something I hadn't even thought of really but it fits them so incredibly. It would definitely explain why Johns able to get the upper hand on her so many times. After a while I can just imagine his relentlessness getting too mentally exhausting for her... or anyone really. No wonder he's the only one that could break her down enough to plead. Which for her is just entirely unheard of! Absolute music to senior psychopaths ears though.. D: And I agree, there's a complete desperation between them. Especially on Johns side. Basically everything you said about him is entirely true... especially him wanting to act out on his desires but being unable to. It drives him crazy which unfortunately manifests itself in a lot of other horrible ways. The story behind Raine's feather is just such an incident. Again, I'm just all a twitter with everything you've done here. I'm not going to be able to stop looking at this for a long long time, trust me, haha. But seriously, I'm so truly blessed! <3 Please know how much I sincerely appreciate everything you do <3 Your so awesome to me. I really can't say it enough. *must think of something absolutely crazy to do for you in return now* XD And a couple new ones from me; Rise & Shiner i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/RiseShiner.jpgA little aftermath sketch for you <3 Poor Igors really feeling the fallout from Horst's everlast hook there. XD Sheep's Clothing i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/SheepsClothing.jpgConcept I sketched up at work last week. There's such a thin line between right & wrong. I was hoping this would just speak volumes for John & the hypocrisy he surrounds himself in. Not sure if the shadow thing really works out so well or not though. I really did try to make it believable XD I guess if nothing else at least Johns sporting some pretty swank boots now. Mr. November Portrait i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/mrnovemberportrait.jpgOk I was going wait until this was far less crappy to post but agh.. how can I after all the awesome you've left for me? <3 I'd like to still finish this up at some point for you though. There's a lot wrong with it that still needs fixing D:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 9:21:32 GMT
They're so awesome. Poor Igor, Horst really packed a whollop. John's such an entertaining character. Such a thin line between good and evil. Oh Mr. November, you look so charming there
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2009 3:33:26 GMT
[glow=red,2,300] Oh Juno and Raine, you have made my year!!! [/glow] ;D ;D ;D This is so incredible, Juno I'm wordless, your comic is so dark and beautiful, bravo! Wonderful job! Raine, I love Rise & Shiner picture, its so funny and Mr. looks so yummy sexy! ;D Girls, I'm in love with your incredible artwork and creativity, congrats to you both!
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Post by Juno on Apr 14, 2009 4:38:05 GMT
Yay, I'm so happy people liked my comic <3 <3 Oooh, Raine, you needn't worry ever about returning anything (not that I totally mind if you do though, heh heh) Really, your amazing characters, and the wonderful reactions I get from you and everyone else are MORE than enough payment. I am so incredibly moved by John and Raine, their relationship... it just blows my mind. I am so incredibly pleased that you like this <3 <3 <3 I was a bit worried that I was being a bit presumptuous in doing it xD I can see now that I need not have 8) So thank you so so so SO SO SO much <3 For your lovely kind words, and truly, I feel blessed as well. I love John so much, and indeed, I actually pity him just about more than anything. It seems from the time of birth everything just wasn't quite right. He can never, ever be normal. Even if he were to come to some sense and realize that torturing and burning women was an absolutely horrific thing to do, I don't think anything can take his deeply closeted lust for them away. He could never be with anyone in a normal sense, he would always be too... just too fanatical about it. He lives in a world of hypocrisy, as you so aptly pointed out (which dear lord I love that picture, but I'll get to that in a moment) and... I don't know. It seems odd to feel sorry for a monster, but I can't help but feel empathy for someone who will never ever be able to let himself be happy. It far from excuses the horrible deeds he has done, but he is human (err... bird) all the same. Ahem, anyways, moving on from my weird emotional connection to a complete psycho HOMG!! Igor painting, what the crap do you mean theres stuff wrong with it???!!!! LESS CRAPPY?!! Woman, you break MY MIND DDD8 I.... I... ,3 AIGSIHGIDYGAK I will be completely honest with you, when I first looked at it, I sucked in my breath so fast that MY EARS POPPED xDDDD So yeah, bad Raine! That is absolutely freaking amazing and holycowawesomesauceofdoooooommmmm 8DDD The colors, He's so elegant any sexier and I swear I'm gonna burn a hole in the computer chair!!! and just completely magnificent <3 <3 Ooooohh, I could kiss you HE'S SO DAMN AMAZING Hee hee, Rise and Shiner Entirely too much awesome is inspired on this board x3333 I lol'd xDD Well Igor... You had it coming to you. If not for Agnes' sake then for all the other poor people you've been horrible to xD ilu so much, Nanny 83 Oooh, and the best for last... oh John, you wolf. I totally was thinking about the crazy hypocrisy he lives in today, funny enough (I'm still sold on that idea that we share a brain somewhere, lol) And indeed, I tried to point that out a bit in Circle (It was small, just when he takes the lord's name in vain on the final page) But really, you did an excellent job on this, ooh it very nearly pains me to see it. Poor Raine - I love their relationship, but I really feel bad for both of them. It makes me want to loathe John, it really does, but god, you've made him so captivating. I cannot hate him, not in the least. And I think the shadow worked out great - indeed upon my first sight of it it makes him seem rather monstrous, even though it's just a normal shadow. There is so much personality in this, jeez, and in everything you do, it's just incredible. And now, I have a touch of art for you 83 I honestly thought today that I was completely arted out after Circle - I had the damndest time drawing for several hours (I REALLY want to draw Raine sitting in the midst of all the clutter and wreckage he caused, but I guess today just wasn't that day. Damn) alu87.deviantart.com/art/That-s-John-to-you-B-tch-119186666I was feeling kinda bad for Igor. But I guess not really since I just drew John like, smack talking him from the couch xDDD alu87.deviantart.com/art/The-Day-After-119186908Alright, I have to totally take a moment to love on you guys for a moment - This was inspired by Raine's pictures of Agnes telling Horst she thought she was pregnant and the follow up. This is a prequel to all of that, and it wouldn't have happened without you lot <3 When I created Horst he was really just... like, he wasn't even supposed to get any art, I drew that first picture of him like, on a whim xD He was more loveless, and just totally background. And Raine and Lourdes, you guys really changed him for me, and I am SO appreciative of that. You've expanded Agnes through him, and given them both a life that I hadn't even considered, and I just love it. You guys got me to take a second look at him, where I had first written him off, and I'm so glad I did <3 So in short, this is for you two <3 As Horst would say "It vas like ZAT" *boom* 8) alu87.deviantart.com/art/Unexpected-Guest-119187332More torment. Poor Raine, I'm getting to be as bad as John is D: How will she get out of this one, ha ha. Much playing with colors here. Thank you so much, Raine, you took a lot of what I thought I knew about color and just tossed them out the window 8) I'm still working on it, but it's fantastic fun <3 And yeah, this is so tail end: Thank you very very much, Lourdes xD That means a lot coming from you <3
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Post by Raine on Apr 14, 2009 8:31:47 GMT
God happy just isn't the word for that comic. Seriously, I think you permanently blew my mind with that thing... like forever XD I still can't over how incrediawesome it all is. I just love it so so so so SO much! <3<3 I'm truly ecstatic & moved myself that you like those two so much. You don't even know how much that means to me to hear. <3 It thrills me to no end to know I've actually succeeded in making a halfway interesting character. I'm so glad you think they both are <3 And I totally agree with you. I feel really bad for John too. It's hard not to I think with the upbringing I dished out for him. I swear I must love to torment my poor characters or something. They all have such a horrible fruit salad of problems XD But you're right. It is really sad he could never hope to have a normal life or know real love. The one time he did let himself slip he paid for it pretty dearly. But then it was his own fault really. But I guess that's why he's so passionate about what he does. It's almost like the only thing he can feel any satisfaction or worth with D: Anyway, it's not odd at all to feel sorry for him. He's kind've a tragic character & I feel a lot of pity for him too. I swear, I need to actually make a character that's not depressing happy for once XD Speaking of which I'm so crazy ecstatic you liked Mr. November so much. Oh you have no idea how happy that makes me to know!! <3 <3 Amazing you say.. I'm floored! Your too damn good to me woman.. you really are! I could'nt be more thrilled you enjoy it so much. The pleasure was all mine trust me hehe ;D I'd still like to finish it properly sometime though. I just know I could make it look a lot more polished than this. Also, God we really do share a brain. I'm completely convinced now. It's just nuts how similar our thought processes & tastes are. It really blows my mind but in all the best ways. It's like your totally like my Duckula soul friend over here XD But that's just so awesome we can share & bounce so many similar ideas off one another. It makes me so incredibly happy. <3 It's so funny, BTW, you would've been thinking about his hypocritical nature too. I actually meant to say something about him taking the Lords name in vain. I did catch that but wasn't sure if it was intentional or not. XD I love that it was. So subtle & perfect! ;D And yes, he is quite the wolf..especially that panel where he manages to break through the bubble. Hoo boy <3 Again, I can't get enough of him tearing up the house like a damn maniac. I laughed & swooned all at the same time. And if that wasn't enough there's more?! Ahhh God you are so amazing! X3 These are all just fantastic <3 God I love John on the couch with Igor so so much! Ahaha, poor Igor. He's so jealous & butthurt & Johns just all what the hell ever get out of my face XD And Agnes. Oh God that's just too funny. She looks like she's about ready to tear him a new one through that bubble. Oh I just love this so so much <3 Poor Igor. He so misses what little attention he had now XD Awww, Horst & Agnes. I'm truly touched you think I could've helped inspire so many good things for him. Believe me when I say I can say the same for you. Jonathan was the same for me too. He was completely inspired by Lourdes but I actually wasn't sure if his history was really going to work all that well when I wrote it. But thanks to you he's just wow.. You & Lourdes are both completely responsible for this guy - it's true! And all the recent ideas that you've had for them both here are always so perfect & have helped deepen them in so many ways. It's really helped me develop them both that much more. Especially your ideas on Raine. I didn't even have a house or anything for her let alone spells & personality quirks. It's true you've helped me come along just as much. Like I said, I'm so happy we can bounce ideas off one another. That makes me so glad. <3 And Horst is such a wonderful character. Him & Agnes are so perfect in their offbeat relationship. If anything it just makes them all the more interesting & human. I just love them both <3 Love the little joke here, BTW. Haha God that's just great. So cute X3 Oh Best for last is so right! It's like you're trying to kill me over here. I know it! God, I just love this so much! <3 Peephole is right. Haha I could just imagine his giant warped face through one of those things now XD Ahh but poor Raine. He is just in love with showing up univited. Still I love how he bothers to knock regardless. Such a proper maniac stalker I'm flattered, BTW, that you would consider me good enough with colors to learn from. o.x You have no idea how much that means to me to hear. I'm so touched to know & that I could be any kind of an influence at all. It makes me so happy <3 Most of my color choices came as a result of Dan who kind've helped educate me a lot more on how colors interacted in certain lighting situations. If it wasn't for him I don't think I'd be anywhere near where I am now as far as understanding. But still, thank you so much for your kind kind words & God.. just everything! <3 Your so sweet & in your own words, ping ponging art with you really is the greatest thing ever. It's seriously given me something to look forward to nightly now <3 John & Feather i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/JohnFeather.jpgJust a quick sketch of John holding Raine's feather again. I sketch a lot at work but usually never post this stuff because of all the horrible notepad lines. I've always just felt kinda weird about posting lined stuff without cleaning. :/ Still, at the risk of sounding slightly conceited I did like how his face ended up turning out. Not sure exactly what he's grinning about but I guess it must be something amusing (or horrible? D:) So Hardcore i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/Hardcore.jpgAnother work doodle. So crappy but God I loved your death metal comment so much. XD The mental images seriously made me laugh so much to think about. I spent most of my lunch break today just drawing stuff like this because of it. Raine is definitely not a fan I have to say Peck i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/Tawww.jpgAgnes & Horst being affectionate again. I'll try to color this up tomorrow sometime :3 Oh Noe You Di'UNT! i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/GetOutMahFace.jpgOoooh I just had to do a follow up. Seriously, how could I NOT? XD Anyway, just John getting all uppity & flippant. He's about to lose an arm I think. Juno You Got Some Splainin' To Do i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/AboutThatLaundry.jpgLooks like Igor's got a few questions about those clothes of his. X3 Again, I'm sorry I wasn't able to color this. Work kept me pretty busy tonight with homework so I'm sorta sharing your arted out feelings. :/ Still, I'd love to color when I get the chance. <3
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2009 13:20:19 GMT
This is so awesome, girls you are the best of the best! I love all the pictures here! ;D Both takes on Agnes and Horst are adorable! Raine your Oh Noe You Di'UNT! and Juno's That's John To you B..., are priceless!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2009 15:56:21 GMT
Oh my, John, Horst, Agnes and Raine are such awesome characters. I just love their deep background; and how they interact with one another. Oh, the laundry line is such a classic. Heck, I love all the pictures by both Juno and Raine
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Post by Juno on Apr 15, 2009 4:21:26 GMT
SORRY IF THIS IS tl;dr DDD8 Alright. I had this thing typed up, telling you how rediculously amazing the follow up on the Laundry picture was. However, it was just after I had first seen it, and it was mostly incoherent babbling, as I swear to you I couldn't think effing straight. So I drew this so that you may better understand my reaction 8D I guarantee to you that it is 100% true, however sad/pathetic that may be xD alu87.deviantart.com/art/The-Reaction-119300824Don't worry. My coffee burn was minimal, though it did ache for a while xD I had to go out to work with Pat (My stepfather) like, right after that and I just floated through it in a happy happy haze that including much random blushing and indecent chuckling. I think we are trying to kill each other through art xDDD I would suffer a delighted death if it were to be that way 8) But seriously, I thought for a moment I was like, having a heart palpitation when I saw that xD I love love love LOVE the others you posted, but hooo <3 That one takes the cake. John just got serv'd xD Cause if there was ever a reminder that I still go completely weak at the knees for Igor THAT WAS IT. I don't even know how I managed to wander into the kitchen (and yes, I really did twirl on my way in there xD) I guess scalding yourself over-pouring the coffee made up for that though xD Arrgh <3 I have not been able to pry the slightly deranged grin off my face all day xD If you do in fact color it, I may be gone to the hospital for awhile xDDD Ahem, yeah xD I was actually talking to WednesdayFriday about this over on dA, I so totally cannot look at this thread the forum around my parents xD All of my reactions are so crazy and usually quite physical, ranging from me covering my face in a fit of giggles (I do that one a LOT) to actually smacking my head against the desk 8D You say I'm too good to you?! It cannot even compare to how amazing you are to ME 8D Argh, I am so freaking lucky <3 <3 okay xD I can focus on the other ones now, for they are also way WAY deserving of my uncondition lovings <3 JOOOHHHN xD I love the one with the Feather (Which by the way, you HAVE to tell me how he got it, you've been hinting at it and it's driving me freakin nuts over here xD ) He looks so self satisfied. His smile almost looks genuine, but you just can't trust a wolf in sheeps clothing D: God only knows what he's done now. Which speaking of - ha ha ha, I lol'd at the Metal one xD I'm sure he disagrees with their hedonistic screaming ways, but he must identify so much with the lyrics xD I share a reaction with Raine all like "Haargh, incoherent noises blaring at meeee D:" I do symphonic metal <3 83 Much prettier, lol D'aawwwww DD: I love Agnes and Horst, they're so dang cute!! Seriously, it's like everything you do so completely symbolizes their relationship - very simple, quirky <3 I love it <3 <3 Argh, you can't know how much I adore what you've done with them <3 Ah ha ha ha, more loling 8DD Igor and John just can't play nice, can they? xDD John better watch out for that hand, Igor's rather likely to do something horrifically awful to it xD I need to draw follow up on this, it's too good not to xD Now back to my second favorite subject in all the world: John 8D So like, he's been running through my mind constantly now (Igor's not at all happy having to share space in my heart, either lol) Thinking more on him, I wonder what he does after the burninating is over. Go home I guess? That seems so depressing D: I actually have a picture planned out for this on the theme of "What do you truly have at the end of the day?"/"He who laughs last usually laughs alone" I suppose while the burning is on he's all on top of the world, champion of innocents and smiter of heathen devil worshippers. He must really feel like he's won - for a while anyways. But when it's all said and done, and the ashes are scattering on the ground... Argh, God, I really just feel terrible for the poor bastard DD8 When it's over, he has nothing, not even truly his religion to turn to. Reap what you sow, I suppose. I was reading back through Circle, and it occurred to me that I had unintentionally paralelled the strife between Raine and John to my own life. On the last page it always sat uncomfortably with me that he left so angry (In a good way, mind you, it was exactly what I wanted to happen) But really, it occurred to me that my relationship with my stepfather, Pat is the same way. Don't get me wrong, I love Pat very much, he's been more of a father than the man who helped birth me ever was, and Pat is truly a very good man *aka, don't immediately liken him to John, lol* But Pat and I have a similar relationship particularly lately where we've just been wearing each other down (Myself being worn down much more so, really) It's been over my job hunt, and a few other things, but that's unimportant. Like Raine and John, he is constantly lashing out at me, and whilst I usually fight back, sometimes I just quit, I can't keep it up anymore. The last page reminds me of how I feel every time Pat leaves me when he's angry - He always slams the door so freaking hard the window panes rattle, and I just sit there and think to myself 'Is it over...?" It struck me, because like John and Raine, it really isn't. Something has to give. Obviously my step dad isn't going to go round trying to set fire to me (Though, aheh, if he knew I was Pagan, he might want to have a go at it, lol) But's it's just constantly push and pull, neither side can win or leave happy. Sorry to go all introspective on your thread D: But it really ties me closer to Raine and John because I can liken myself to both of them so much. Yes, John especially, really. Because alternatively I know what it's like to be in his shoes. (I apologize if this is a bit deep for typical forum chatter) Not necissarily having crazy lust for what I can't have, but I have lived a portion of my life where I hated myself so much I couldn't allow myself to be happy either. It eats away at you every day, like Prometheus and the Vulture - there may be a brief respite every now and then, but it just starts anew. I suppose this is why I pity John so much - I eventually came out of that darkest part of my life (Which spanned well over ten years) through the help of good decent people, and finding my way back to my faith in the Goddess. I pity him because he can't ever have that. Heh, as much as I love John, he can be a bit of a searing reminder of my own days past. I know that this is fairly kind of irrelevant, but Raine, I want you to know how deeply this has touched me. I can't often communicate to people how their ideas have affected me, and I have this glorious chance right now, and I just feel as though I must take it 8) Ahem... Enough weirdly serious stuff now 8D I wish I had more art for you, but the only other thing I drew today I want to try and like... make decent for you x3 Which, lol, if I hadn't sat here forever babbling on about myself I could have taken the time to do so xD Ah well, it should be done soon. It's inked and is in Photoshop, awaiting color, lol Again, I feel bad for sticking you guys at the tail end xD To Lourdes and Steffie, thank you both very much, I am thrilled that you like my stuff 83 This has been like, the best art period in my life, and I have no intentions of letting up anytime soon xDDD I've discovered a style of drawing that finally really suits me (Who knew it would be feathery? Not me, that's for damn sure. However, I am now suffering a bit of backlash from a few friends losers I know who are making fun of me for being into Anthro *roll eyes* Ten years from now I'll let them know how awesome and fulfilling my bird lust is and ask them if Kingdom Hearts is still working out for them *coughnotangryatallnotmenope*) *EDIT* Hurr, I beat you on 8D alu87.deviantart.com/art/Two-Witches-119386192John would hate me so much xD If not for my arrogant sass, then definitely for how flamable I am. Being witchy makes you flamable 8D lol it's fun to be Pagan x3 And yeah, jeesh, I'm a moron. Last night in my winding blabbering about myself I completely neglected to tell you just how touched I am that you could say the same about John as I said for you about Horst 8) <3 That really makes me day, I love John so much, he's very dynamic and fun. I don't see how you could think he couldn't possibly work out. Who wouldn't adore a hyper religious psychopath murderer? xD lol about Raine, ha ha. When I was drawing Circle in the first couple panels I was thinking like... really literally, I suppose. I was all like 'Hmm. If I was gonna try and see if some crazed lunatic was coming after me, what method of divination would I use? Tarot...? Nah too uncertain. Maybe a scrying mirror? I'm not very experienced with that, better not screw it up. Crystal Pendulum? Perfect 8D (Though I myself favor a hematite pendulum =D) The little mat she's using though is like, crazy nonsense. Excuse to put the Goddess symbol somewhere? Yeah, pretty much. Afterwards I was all like 'Huh, yeah, I could've just used something stereotypical like a crystal ball. Whoops, oh well 8D *EDIT AGAIN HEHE* Yay, I get to add moar 8D alu87.deviantart.com/art/Pope-John-119415087I must be running for longest post ever D: Oh well. Yeah... I get the craziest random ideas xD I guess it makes sense...?! Maybe that's how he sees himself, ha ha. ilu, John 8)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2009 4:05:56 GMT
Ha ha ha! I love your Reaction Juno! Aaaww, hope your hand is better now Two Witches is completely amazing! You did again! ;D Seeing you two makes me think a RP would be appropriate.
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Raine
Bumbling French Crook
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Post by Raine on Apr 17, 2009 8:03:56 GMT
Oh God! D: I'm so sorry that happened Juno! You poor thing { I'm not trying to kill you I swear! XD Although if this keeps up we really are bound to massacre each other because seriously.. all the John you draw - just hoooo <3 <3 Jooohn. It's a wonder I haven't done something like this myself yet though I'm sure it's only a matter of time. XD At some point my heart WILL explode - I'm damn certain of it. But ah God I'm just beside myself knowing that this managed to make you so euphoric. I'm overjoyed! And yes, poor John. Igor really did just hand some smack back to him didn't he? It's so "ON" XD Oh the mental image of them having some bizarre throw down now does just tickle me. <3 As does all your appreciation. Seriously, geez.. all your kind, kind words. You really are too good to me <3 It makes me so elated we can basically waste each other with our art like this. XD This is pretty much the same reaction I have from everything you do only times a gajillion for the circle comic. Dear God I still cannot even tell you how much of a fit that sent me into. You thought your reaction was bad, you just don't even know. Had anyone been here, my mad hyena giggling would've driven them straight back out. XD Ahh, but who cares really. I so love that we're able to destroy spoil each other like this. We're like art-ners now or something haha. XD Still, despite all the absurd glee you give me, I am still so sorry it came at the expense of your hand. I really do hope it's not burnt up too seriously. D: Guess it makes me kinda glad I didn't draw the rest now because erm.. *cough* tip of the iceberg. XD But that'll just have to wait for another day I think. It's not like I want to annihilate you just yet <3 Aughhh & speaking of which, Holy holy hell I <3 you X3 Just John in that comic. God, that Christmas bit makes me laugh so effing much. It truly is the equivalent of him finding like the mother of all red rider bb guns XD Aw geez, poor Juno though. Maybe Raine will be able to convince John it was all just her crazy demon magic talking or something. D: I sure hope so anyway. Raine doesn't have many she keeps close but she does appreciate what few friends she has o.x I so loved the idea of the pendulum in your last comic, BTW. I meant to mention that to you actually. It was such an original & unique idea I thought. I actually don't know much about pendulum's but I thought that was just so appropriate & perfect for her. Way more interesting then a crystal ball.. completely! Aughh pope John. Now dear God that's scarey XD Haha I'm so gonna have to draw him riding around in a little pope mobile now or something. But really if his head got any bigger he would probably need a hat like that. But not before he learns how to spell. WTF John go back to school. D: Or maybe he's just purposely catering to the ignorant town yokels? Either way I love this so much! Looks like my desktop's going to be changing again for I dunno.. what? The 9th time this week? XD I swear your really too good to me here. It's like I have more John then I know what to do with.. which is such a lovely thing <3 Who wouldn't love a religeious physchopath indeed? X3 It's kind of funny, I purposely set out to make him such an unappealing character & in the end he's scarey & all but eesh it's just hard for me not to like him. By all means I should but I just can't. (Unless he existed in real life then I know I'd be running the other way. D:) But.. I dunno I think if I had given him better circumstances in life it probably would've made it easier to villafy him but meh.. how fun would that be yanno? Anyway, it does warm my heart so greatly that you enjoy him so. <3 I can't even tell you how incredibly touched it makes me that you would find so much common ground with the two of them. Oh I just wish you even knew what that meant to me to hear. One of my biggest strives has always been to be able to do just that with a character. It's been one of my strongest ambitions since I first started out with Veneficus story. Just trying to pick up & apply all the stuff from my books about building good story structure. Supposedly you can't have good storytelling without characters people can care about & no audience can care unless they feel they can relate in some small way. Which I guess makes sense but still I just can't even tell you how much that truly means for me to know that they connect with you on some level.. any level really. I think you've just made my whole year. <3 Especially Raine. To be perfectly honest I've been feeling quite ashamed about the state of her character lately. I mean I like the few things I've come up with so far for her but for the most part I still feel like she doesn't have much of a personality or as much as I'd like anyway. She just feels way too I dunno.. sue-ish flawless to me? & I'm still struggling to come up with a few really human faults for her that get in the way of her life. Not to mention cutting back on all the laughable over the top powers/background. I really wasn't thinking too hard when I wrote most of that.. I really wasn't It probably hasn't helped either (or really rather it has honestly) that I took one of those character litmus tests the other day. I think my answer was something like.. kill it with fire? XD Eughh.. I dunno but I swear I'm so ashamed. She needs such major freaking rehaul D: It does make me so happy though that you like her well enough despite all the ridiculousness I've attached to her <3 To be honest, I love what you've been doing with her. She was like.. so much meaner until you played around with her traits. XD I'm just in love everything you've done. It's really helped me solidify her so much more. And again, I'm just moved that you would be able to connect to either of them on any level. I definitely feel you on the whole push pull thing & don't wonder myself if that was some of my own subconsciouness leaking through in there. I can't even tell you how much of my own life your own almost sounds like. Especially with your stepfather. Bill was exactly the same way. I loved him so so much, he raised me & will always be my true dad to me but eesh.. when he was upset it got pretty ugly sometimes. Him & mom especially.. God my parents.. I swear as much as I love them to death they were such prime examples of that thin line between love & hate. When they were upset they just lived to emotionally knock each other back & forth. They spent so much time fighting each other yet at the same time mom & I would both do anything.. really just anything for him to be alive again. He died last June unfortunately & mom especially has taken it hard. It's just... crazy. How much a person can put you through to the point you just hate them sometimes but at the same time just never be able to live without them either.. Blah I'm sorry. I really promise I'm not trying to get all super depressing tmi with any of this stuff. Just saying I think I totally hear you when you say you can relate to the push & pull & the never allowing yourself to be happy. I don't even think I even realized just how much of my own issues I managed to somehow throw on work into them till you said something. Again, I'm just deeply touched that you'd be able to relate to them on any human level at all. Just know how much it moves me to no end to know <3 Also, I'm really sorry, BTW, to hear about your situation. I hope your able to find a job soon & that whatever stress is going on eventually dissipates. Again, if you ever need to vent just note me sometime. I know I probably can't do a whole lot being on the other side of a monitor here but I will always listen <3 Also, if it makes you feel any better, if my own friends knew the sheer amount of drawings/convos that were taking place here they'd also consider it to be the supreme highest degree of faggotry ever XD But honestly I've gotten to that special point in my life where I just don't care anymore. Don't get me wrong. I love them & they love me back regardless of however lame my interests may be but I don't know. I just have too much fun here to really care too hard. This is the best good time I've had in a long time (which I really needed) so... hey whatever <3 Oooh & before I forget! I will try to upload the whole feather incident for you soon. (Maybe tonight if I can get it finished) I've actually been working on something for it the past couple days. It just needs a little tweaking. I honestly hope it won't be too much. It's a little.. uh.. warm? Anyway, just saying I'm trying not to be such a tease over here. I swear I'll have something soon XD Until then I do have at least a couple new things. I'm only sorry I don't have more finished stuff. I wanted so much to post a lot of nice stuff tonight but the few things I'm working on are just so involved it's been taking a little longer then expected. Plus it hasn't helped much that works been dumping extra freelance in my lap either. It's sorta why I missed out on a couple nights here Not that this is a bad thing by any means just that it's been throwing off my groove a bit here is all Anyway, just a bunch of small things (finally!) ;D Your Steak Sir.... i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/welldone.jpgJust having fun with some trivial character quirks. One of the questions I always run into whenever I go through development exercises are little things like what are your chars favorite hobbies/foods etc. Anyway I started thinking a bit more on foods & just imagined this would have to be Johns. There'd just be no way it couldn't be XD As far as everyone else I haven't thought too terribly hard. I know Ven has a quirk of sucking marrow out of bones & eating them like my RL friends crazy husband & Raine uh.. so far I have that she likes (& enjoys making her own) unique herbal teas? But this is really all XD Raine Scribbles i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/RaineScribbles.jpgCrappy page of Raine work doodles. Just trying to get a better feel of her character I Always Feel Like .. Somebody's Watching Meeee i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/DisturbiaDoodle.jpgDug out the original doodle that sparked the Igors jacket piece. Ugh.. it's so bad XD But I dunno.. I guess I thought maybe you'd like seeing it anyways. <3 Buh? i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/GenericTiredJohn.jpgGeneric sketch of John looking bored.. or tired. This wasn't me wanting to go home... not at all XD Until We Meet Again... i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/SoRonery.jpgJohn looking emo sad & lonely. I think you're completely right, BTW, about his emptiness. Once the funs all dead & gone he really is left with a whole lot of nothing. Probably the reason he's never tried to kill Raine by conventional means. She can die under normal circumstances after all.. but then what would John do without her. I suspect a little piece of him really would truly die if she wasn't around anymore. And The Horse You Rode In On.. i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/HellRider.jpgPreview from a little comic I'm slowly chipping away at. Geez.. Could John look any more like a raging psycho or what? XD Gosling Bedtime i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/GoslingBedtimeDoodle.jpgFor Lourdes. Just something I've been wanting to finish up for a while now. That whole vintage/Victorian night gown thing you mentioned a while ago just gave me this little idea I promise I'll color this for you at some point <3 Aaaand lastly, Coven Lovin' i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/raineart/CovenLovin.jpgOoooh John. <3 Looks like it's 3 against 1 now XD Which reminds me; WednesdayFriday; I'd love to color up your character when I properly finish this. Can you let me know sometime what her color pattern would be? I actually meant to respond to you earlier about this character but I missed you in my response for some reason o.x Anyway, So cool to have another witch character in the group. Now it won't just be Raine torturing the poor guy. Whatever John.. you know you like it. XD
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2009 17:04:41 GMT
Oh Raine I hope you and your family are feeling better! *hugs*
Please don't think Raine is Sue-ish (spl?), characters are like our sons/daughters and that is why I think they have part of us creators on them, and that is not Sue but makes our characters more human.
Also, at first I was confused to see two different Raines, I thought they were the same, but I was wrong. One Raine is alchemist in Russia *fangirly giggles* I love so much her story!
And other is Raine the witch from eastern Europe, and I love her powers, as a witch I know each of them had their special powers and skills, also she had her own antagonist and what an enemy if not John?! As a story on witchcraft, and as you have been reading, it could go deep on our humans fears and spirituality. Oh, and if your readers like Juno, can related to your character situations, that further prove I was right, your characters are awesome! Seriously, I would greatly read anything you have wrote for Raine and help if you want me to!!!
More pictures!
Wow, Coven Love is amazing, John is now completely blessed!
Aaaaaah! OMG! I love you for Gosling Bedtime pic!!! It is incredible! Thank you so much, thank you Raine!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I must sing An Die Freude right now!
"Freude, schoner Gotterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder, Was die Mode streng geteilt, Alle Menschen werden Bruder, Wo dein sanfter Flugel weilt.
Deine Zauber binden wieder, Was die Mode streng geteilt, Alle Menschen werden Bruder, Wo dein sanfter Flugel weilt!!! ..."
*Lourdes faints*
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